"I Don't Ever Want to Limit Myself."

Montana Farrah-Seaton

Fashion Model

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About this episode [listen below]

We had the pleasure of interview Montana Farrah-Seaton, a well-known fashion model, pro-basketballer and boxing champ that's not willing to pigeonhole herself into any one particular niche. We learnt all about Montana's journey and her unwavering desire to remain the multifaceted woman she's become.

Transcript below. 

"The main thing for me is being authentic...I want to make sure that my followers see me, as me. Not always serious, not always looking glamorous."

- Montana

"You've got to engage with people that could potentially build your business. So, if you're looking at becoming a PT. Potentially reaching out to people [and offering something in return for content.]"

- Montana Farrah-Seaton


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Montana Farrah-Seaton

Montana is a well-known fashion model with a history in the world of professional sports. Her passion for basketball led her to represent Australia in a number of competitions on both a local and global stage. Her new-found love of boxing means you’ll find her spending most of her time at Tribute Boxing Gym where she trains and is teaching others how to stay fighting fit. 

You know, it's hard, in fashion modelling, you know, it's very it's all about the clothes. It's not about the model. So, you know I've been told that I'm a bit too fit for some types of modelling which is fine because at the end of the day, if I'm happy with how I look, if brands don't want to use me, that's fine...I'm not gonna limit myself into a specific market. I just don't wanna corner myself anywhere that I'm not happy with.

- Montana Farrah-Seaton


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Montana: [00:00:00] I kinda don't want to limit myself to anything. I mean, obviously, I have my goals and aspirations of what I want to be. But again, I still think that I can integrate all aspects into that.


Kareena: [00:00:11] That's Montana Farrah-Seaton. A well-known fashion model but with a history of professional sports behind her. As a woman that's not willing to pigeonhole herself into any one particular niche, Montana has expanded her knowledge and skills into many areas and achieved amazing success in all of them. Her passion for basketball led her to represent Australia in a number of competitions on both a local and global stage. However, her new-found love of boxing means that you'll find her spending most of her time at Tribute Boxing Gym where she trains and teaches others how to stay fighting fit. Did we mention she also started her own personal training business? That's right! Montana Is a girl on the move! So, we chat to her about all of it as she says her journey on the latest episode of "In the Loop."


Kareena: [00:01:02] Welcome to another episode of "In the Loop." I'm your host Kareena and we'll be chatting to you about the business end of being an influencer. Today we have Montana Farrah-Seaton with us.


Montana: [00:01:12] Hey guys.


Kareena: [00:01:13] Montana is a pro basketballer, fashion model and boxing champ just to name a few. So, we wanted to kick off this interview by asking Montana just how she discovered her passion for fitness.


Montana: [00:01:22] So growing up, my mum was a basketballer. My dad was a professional racecar driver. So, two very different sports. My brother and I grew up playing, seriously, every sport underneath the sun. Which I think was really good growing up. You know, you try a few different things, you meet a lot of different people. And then, my mum was primarily a basketballer. So, I kind of integrated into that and then did swimming as well. And then, kind of fell in love with the basketball a little bit more and took that a little bit further. So then, yeah, I played for New South Wales Country, New South Wales as a state in three on three and you know, your normal five-on-five for basketball. And then, represented Australia for three years in a row. Went to the Pacific Youth Championships twice, won two gold medals and then we went to the worlds in Russia and we won bronze there. So that was pretty cool.


Kareena: [00:02:05] That's crazy.


Montana: [00:02:06] And then yeah, then...now a Boxer. So not a "Boxer Boxer" but I've done one fight so, one and zip record. So, we'll keep that nice and undefeated I think at this point. [laughs]


Kareena: [00:02:19] So tell us what was the experience like competing for gold?


Montana: [00:02:23] Pretty surreal really, like you don't know. It's such an amazing moment to be able to put on your Australian colours, the green and the gold and realise that you're representing your country but you're with such a good group of girls that, you know, you've played against for years that you kind of don't even realise it almost, until you're like, "Alright, I've actually won a gold medal for the country." So, yeah, it was a really awesome experience and to be able to do it twice was...can't even put anything else above it really.


Kareena: [00:02:48] So you've transitioned into boxing now. How did that happen?


Montana: [00:02:52] So basically, when I was trialling for the World's team in Russia, we would train for nine hours a day for five days in a training camp.


Kareena: [00:03:01] That's pretty extensive!


Montana: [00:03:02] Yeah, by day three, your body was starting to break down. Again, that was where the mental edge came in. So, I had a family friend back home in Albury where I was living at that time train me in boxing. Basically, to allow me to push through any mental barriers. Obviously, your body is tired but if mentally you can push through it then you're fine. It's almost getting that second gear being like, "Alright. I think I'm done." Click in another gear and off we go. So, we would train, you know, 40-degree heat, 100% humidity for three hours in the middle of the day and he'd basically thrash me as hard as he could. And boxing for me was...it's mental as well. You know, you've got to learn things. It's not just a physical thing of just running or something, you know, you've got a punch coming back at you most of the time. So, for me, it was a new skill set, so I learnt something new. And then from there, I just fell in love with it. I went overseas to work in modelling and then I came back and then kept it going, kept it going and then moved to Melbourne and found Tribute Boxing. Now I work there. I train there. I'm there probably more than I am at my house.


Kareena: [00:04:03] You're second home now. [laughs].


Montana: [00:04:04] Yeah, probably my first home. My house is actually probably my second home. I go there to a shower, eat and then go back to work. [laughs] Yeah, so I kind of just fell into it. Yeah, I've just been loving it.


Kareena: [00:04:13] Tell us about your fight. That was pretty recently?


Montana: [00:04:17] May this year.


Kareena: [00:04:19] Tell us about that process because obviously, going from basketball into a boxing ring is a very different experience.


Montana: [00:04:25] Very different. You know, basketball being a team sport. Played majority team sports my whole life and then boxing such an individual [sport]. A lot of boxers, it's just about them. Their whole corner is all about them, helping them. I mean, we had two teams, so I actually made a lot of great friends through it. You know, a lot of connections that I probably wouldn't have made if I hadn't done the fight. Yes, so different. Nothing I'd ever really done before but I'm always up for a new challenge, so I thought, you know what, give it a go. My mum wasn't too happy about it.


Kareena: [00:04:52] No?


Montana: [00:04:53] She's probably still not happy about it. She couldn't really watch it. I haven't watched it since.


Kareena: [00:04:58] No way?!


Montana: [00:04:59] So I had a pretty, like, troubling sort of start to my fight. I had an opponent, she actually got pneumonia about six weeks out. So, at that point I didn't have an opponent and I thought I'll keep training and see what happens, see if they can find me someone new. And then, we did find someone but regulations and rules, she couldn't actually fight because she'd already done some amateur fight. And then, we found my sparring partner or our team sparring partner. She was about 15kgs heavier, about 15cm taller. I thought, "Na I'm up for the challenge." Our sparring was really good. So, I thought, you know, I didn't feel too out of depth with it. And then six days at our last sparring for our team and we went in our fight order and I was second last, and one of my best mates who was fourth, threw a punch and dislocated her shoulder, so I didn't get to spar that day. She couldn't fight, and we thought her opponent was from Brisbane originally, so the family was coming down. So, I end up fighting her. She was twelve kilos heavier than me.


Montana: [00:05:53] So a little bit out of depth, but like I said, I'm up for a challenge. We did our weigh in, I gained seven kilos in about an hour. I don't recommend drinking 15 liters of water in an hour. Trust me, it's not fun. You thought I was going to die. Yeah, I did it, made weight, fought the next day.


Kareena: [00:06:13] And won!


Montana: [00:06:13] Yes and won. One and zip, we'll leave it at that, never again.


Kareena: [00:06:17] Before you were hinting to us about your very competitive nature.


Montana: [00:06:21] Yes...


Kareena: [00:06:21] Do you want to elaborate for our listeners?


Montana: [00:06:23] Let's just say, nothing is fun. There is always competition. [laughs] No umm...Yeah, I always like to put a bet on something, you know, someone says something, I'm like "Alright, what do you want to bet?" Yeah. No, I dunno, I think growing up with basketball, you know, that's just how it is. It's very competitive nature, it's you against someone else. I think playing with women when I was a lot younger, thirteen, I was playing with twenty-six year old’s, I grew up and that was kind of the nature back then, a bit of trash, you know elbow, play a bit dirty. So, I definitely picked up that. Yeah and it's kind of just progressed into the rest of my life.


Kareena: [00:06:57] To which you're, I mean, you're training future athletes in boxing now. You've also got teams that you're looking after.


Montana: [00:07:02] Yes. So right now, we've got our next fight night coming up on December 8th at Melbourne Pavilion. And so now I'm kind of like a little bit of a mentor/training partner for a lot of the girls because it's quite daunting, it's a rollercoaster ride, you go. You know some days you feel really good other days. I mean you get a punched in the head. Yeah. So yeah you just go through those mixed emotions every day. So, it's just about riding the waves. I'm there just to basically, as a support for the girls if they need any help with anything and just being a bit of a backbone. I've been through it, I know what they're feeling. You know, it is quite daunting to get in the ring against someone you're probably friends with or have seen around the gym. So, yeah, just doing that. Helping them in any way I can to make sure that they're the best that they can be when they step inside the ring and feel that they've done everything that they can.


Montana: [00:07:52] From sweaty activewear to high fashion, we've seen Montana hit the stage in both sports and on the runway. So, we were curious...How does one marry the two? How can she combine her passions in both the physical and online worlds?


Kareena: [00:08:06] It's hard. But, you know, having, I mean I work for Tribute in classes, but I also have my own PT business. So, in saying that I am able to swap and change my clients around if need be. Like this week, it was very hectic the last couple of days but na, I think, you know, they both kind of work with each other. You know, if my agency sends me something I'm really backed up and just don't feel that I can swap and change everything around. I just say I can't do it. So yeah, they both kind of work in well with each other. Yeah. You know, obviously, being a trainer in training keeps me fit for the modelling and doing a lot of fitness campaigns and stuff like that. It just works in well, they'll be like, "Hey, do you reckon you could do this?" And I'll be like "Yeah sure! Let's do it." Photographers especially, really appreciate that I've got that training background because you know, the more extravagant you are in a shot, the better it looks and that sort of thing.


Kareena: [00:08:48] Which has led me to your Instagram and the beautiful shots that are on there. So, you've got a considerable following on there now. Has that come primarily from your fitness or your modelling or both together?


Montana: [00:09:00] I think both together. Being in two different environments that are quite big, someone sees you on this or sees you on that. It's spread out over a few different fields and that sort of thing and then you meet people from all over. So, you know, we've got people that come from Sydney to the gym you know, they might be there for a few days they do a few sessions and then they'll start following you or repost something and then their friends sees it. And having lived in Sydney a few years ago as well and getting that, and then I lived overseas in India and Europe, modelling over there. So, you know you meet people all over there. So, it's kind of just a little bit of everything that's helped build it.


Kareena: [00:09:33] How long have you been growing your Instagram following or working towards it?


Montana: [00:09:36] Look, I never really worked towards it. The main thing for me is being authentic. You know, I’m going to make sure that I'm seen through my Instagram. I don't want to just be paid post or promo here, promo there. So, I try to make sure that anything that I'm promoting to anyone is really something that I value or really use. I think that does get lost a lot of the time. So, I want to make sure that my followers see me, as me. Not always serious, not always looking glamorous but yeah that being that a lot of people will like, "We just never know what we're gonna get from you each day, one day you're in a bridal dress, next day you're in a bikini, the next day you're punching someone, the next day you, know you, you're playing basketball." Or they're like, we just like to keep up-to-date with what you're doing because we just don't know what we're going to get from you. Yeah, I don't have a theme. I'm not just a model. I'm not just a basketballer. I'm a little bit of everything, I guess.


Kareena: [00:10:24] Which is contrary to what a lot of people are doing, or the belief that to grow a following, you have to have a specific theme or niche. Your following is really just based around who you are as a person.


Montana: [00:10:35] Yeah, exactly. You know, someone said to me, "Oh, you know you should really think about like the theme that you want to go for. Do you want to be a model, or do you want to be seen as a fitness model, and I was like "Aww well I don't know? I kind of want to be both." I don't want to corner myself into a market and then be like, "Hey I don't want to do this anymore, I want to go into something [else]." You've got to retreat and then maybe, you've built a little bit of a following but that following is in say, a fitness following but then you go into fashion, and they're like "Well I don't really care about fashion. I followed her for the fitness. So, I kind of don't limit myself to anything. I mean obviously, I have my goals and aspirations of what I want to be. But again, I still think that I can integrate all aspects into that.


Kareena: [00:11:11] How do you think that's played out in your work. Because, obviously, when brands are looking for a certain and fit for a campaign or something like that? Do you find that works for you or against you sometimes?


Montana: [00:11:22] I think a little bit of both. You know, it's hard, in fashion modeling, you know, it's very it's all about the clothes. It's not about the model. So, you know I've been told that I'm a bit too fit for some types of modelling which is fine because at the end of the day, if I'm happy with how I look, if brands don't want to use me, that's fine. When I was told this, I was like "Alright, I'm gonna, you know, my arms are bit too muscly. Let's take it back a little bit. But I wasn't enjoying my training because I was limited to certain things. So, you know, then I still had brands using me, but I thought you know what, I'm happy with how I look. I felt better when I was doing whatever training I wanted to. So, I'm not gonna limit myself into, you know, a specific market again. So, now I've got brands using me, as like, a boxer or just as fitness based. Yeah, I still get a little bit of bikini and I'm happy with what I'm doing, you know. So, I just don't wanna corner myself anywhere that I'm not happy with.


Kareena: [00:12:11] So how do you get approached by brands now and how do you assess what you will and won't do?


Montana: [00:12:15] You get a lot of stuff come through your Instagram which is kind of hard because you have to deal with that yourself. Because you know, otherwise you then have to send it to Chadwick's [Modelling Agency]. Yeah, so, I kind of try and deal with that sort of stuff. But, in the beginning I was like, alright, whatever I can do, I'll do, you know? Yep, this person wants to send me this, I'll do it. Now, I've kind of realised it's quality over quantity. Not everyone wants to see everything. Not everyone cares about that. And again, I want to be authentic. I want to be genuine. I don't want, I don't want to promote anything that I wouldn't use. I'm not going to use a face scrub be like "Oh my God, this is amazing! Made my skin looks like this and look flawless," which it isn't. But now I've kind of realised that if someone sends me something, I want to make sure that what they're giving me is really what I would want to use or would help me.


Kareena: [00:13:03] For our listeners, that are trying to build their following, like you've successfully done. Do you have any practical tips or tricks that they can use to try and build their following?


Montana: [00:13:12] Just be active on it, I guess. So, you know, if you've got particular people that are in the same sort of industry just liking, commenting, you know, you build that consistency with people and they start to notice, "Oh that person's liked my photo. Let's have a look at them.".


Kareena: [00:13:25] So you engage quite a lot?


Montana: [00:13:26] Yeah. You've got to engage with people that could potentially build your business. So, if you're looking at becoming a PT. Hey I like that PT and that PT or, you know, potentially reaching out to people and being like "Hey, I'd offer you some free PT sessions if you come in and if I can video and post and that sort of thing. So, you've got to build it in that sense in terms of engagement. As annoying as it is, hashtags. You know, that way when people are looking for say "fitness" and it comes up and they go "O, that person's there quite a bit."


Kareena: [00:13:53] Do you have a hashtag strategy specifically?


Montana: [00:13:55] Not really. Just look at a photo and be like "Okay, bup bup bup bup bup." I'm kind of on the spot, which is probably bad. You should really have a strategy behind it. Yeah. In the beginning you kind of have a few that, you know, down pat and you probably have to do a few more. It's annoying and I hate looking at it but it's messy. But anyway, you do it. So, yeah, that sort of thing. And then just being active, being real. Straight after a workout, you know, sometimes I'll put up I'm red faced, not looking my best but that's what your followers want to see, they want to see the real you. They want to see you mucking around. You know, when your housemates or something, get you doing something silly and you know what? Everyone loves it. You've got to repost it. They catch you in your Dr. Seuss pajamas. Hey, got to do it. Looking like a crazy lady. [laughs] Yeah. I think that's what people want to see. They don't want to just see the all the time made up girl, they want to see you without the makeup. They want to see you training hard. You know, that inspires people.


Kareena: [00:14:50] How do you use stories specifically? Obviously, you have those behind-the -scenes type things. How do you see stories working in with your strategy to build a following?


Montana: [00:15:00] I think the stories, especially now that they're putting the highlights. So, for me, I use my stories for workouts. So, either just posting the workout in what I've done, posting a little bit of video, that type of thing. And then just showcasing my life throughout the stories. I think not everyone wants to say everything you do in your life on your actual page and in posts. You know, for example at our gym we do a dog-house Wednesday. So, two trainers that have a little bit of a problem with each other, maybe they've had an argument, they call each other out and they have a one/two-minute round in the ring. So, it's an all-out brawl. So, we video that and so that I put up there and you know, particularly with people that are at the gym, you know, they tune in and they watch, or other people are like "What is this?" So, you know, showcasing that through there. You know, my friends, people I work with who...just anything that you're doing but yeah, just showing people you know at the time that you get up, you know, what happens throughout the day.


Kareena: [00:15:49] OK. So, keeping people in the loop basically?


Montana: [00:15:51] Yeah, exactly. You know, when I'm from the gym, then I'm straight to a shoot, then I'm straight to this, you know, being like "OK, so she does a little bit of everything. You know, she's not just in one thing." But then I also just put up stuff that probably people are like, "We don't care." "Oh, that's a pretty wall!" But, you know, you just do it. It's something that interests you or that you find aesthetically pleasing. So, yeah. And people understand a little bit more about you through you [as a] person. Show your personality through your stories, I think is probably the biggest thing.


Kareena: [00:16:19] Leveraging her strong background in fitness and health. Montana has launched her own PT business. Keen to teach others and continue helping people become fitter and happier visions of themselves. We asked Montana just what prompted her down this path and what her journey has been like so far?


Kareena: [00:16:36] Personal Training you started five months ago.


Montana: [00:16:37] Yes.


Kareena: [00:16:38] What made you get into that?


Montana: [00:16:40] Well really throughout school I've always known that I've been in health and fitness a lot. It just seemed like a no-brainer, really. So, then I finished school and then I moved to Sydney for modelling and that was the year I went to Russia. So, we were away for a month. And then when I got back, I went to Bali on a fitness retreat. A good mate of mine from Sydney, is a PT there and he was there training. He's like, "You should come!" I was like "You know what, I just want to get away again and do something for me." You know, I'd been away as a team and that sort of thing and I just wanted to really get back into it. You know, after we won bronze we kind of had a bit of a big night. Paid for it on the way home. Two 14-hour flights I think it was.


Kareena: [00:17:17] Oh no!


Montana: [00:17:17] Yeah, no...that wasn't fun.


Kareena: [00:17:18] Struggle!


Montana: [00:17:19] So, yeah, I just wanted to get in the sun and all that sort of stuff. So, I went there and yeah, it just was like, "This is probably something I could see myself doing." So, I applied to do my PT online. Took me probably a lot longer than I expected because I was quite slow. So, it'll be interesting to see how I go with doing a double diploma online. I'm the biggest procrastinator ever. I'm like "Oh, Netflix! What are we watching now?".


Kareena: [00:17:40] Said every student, ever. [laughs]


Montana: [00:17:42] Yeah, exactly. I'm like, I need to like lock myself in a room with like no distractions. Yeah. So, I kind of just fell into it. And then it was almost like, maybe I don't want to do this, you know, maybe I just want...because then I thought, oh maybe I can't focus on my training, maybe I just want a nine-to-five job. And then, I realised, you couldn't sit at work from nine-to-five, you need variety in your life. You know, you'll get bored in a week. I can't sit still. You know, I’ve always just got too much energy all the time.


Kareena: [00:18:07] Self-awareness is key.


Montana: [00:18:07] Yeah. So, I'll be surprised if I can sit here for the next, you know, however long sitting still. Might have to do some burpees in the middle. Yeah, started at Tribute and was like "Na, this is actually what I want to do." I always like helping people in whatever aspect I can. So, it just seems fitting for me and then yeah got it going and yeah, loving it. My clients hate me throughout a session but hopefully, they love me at the end. [laughs]


Kareena: [00:18:28] How do you go about getting clients, as someone that's starting out with a PT business?


Montana: [00:18:32] So, I promote. I probably haven't done probably a whole lot on my Instagram. Trying not to be like, "Hey come train with me." But just posting workouts and that's where you get a few people like "Hey, I'd love to come train with you." But primarily, it's through word of mouth. It's through the gym. They've got a friend, or you mentioned something to someone throughout the gym, particularly with their boxing and they'll be like "Oh okay. And if you ever want to do any more work let me know." And then from there, it just kind of builds and people kind of notice it and they see you boxing and that sort of thing. So, and I'm only one of two female trainers at Tribute. The other girl, Yulana, who's the actual boxer. She's not actually in the gym as much because she's boxing, being a badass and everything so she travels quite a lot for her boxing. So, yeah, as one of the main female trainers. It's good to have that female influence because a lot of people become quite intimidated coming to a boxing gym because the boxing world is quite male-dominated. You know that's changing and females want to become stronger and it's a bit badass, you know, know how to handle yourself.


Kareena: [00:19:25] So with your PT business, do you find that you get leads or is Instagram fueling some of that growth?


Montana: [00:19:33] Yeah, definitely. And I have a lot of followers from other states or overseas or whatever. I'll post my workouts and they're like, "Oh, this is awesome! I'm going to do it." And I've made a few connections in L.A. and New York, through my Instagram. So, when I do, you know, end up going back there. Got that network already. So, I can, hopefully, then build, you know, if I stay in New York for a few months, build a little bit of a business there. Yeah, while I'm there. So, no, it's good but yeah, a lot of my clients are basically through the gym because a lot of people don't think that they can come in if they're not a member and stuff like that. Yeah, no, a lot of my clients, they see me every day anyway.


Kareena: [00:20:09] Montana is set to take her PT business on the road by leveraging her following on Instagram and reaching her audience, globally. The catch is, she must be physically present in the same place as potential clients. And while this business will work, it still makes part of that time for money transaction. So, we asked Montana is she'd ever considered servicing even more of her global audience using technology she's got available.


Kareena: [00:20:35] As a fitness professional with a global platform, you have a global audience. Have you ever considered the move to an online space to deliver your fitness?


Montana: [00:20:42] Yeah, I have. Probably the next maybe, couple years. Really, I just want to hone in what I'm doing. Once I've established, like I'm basically just started PT.


Kareena: [00:20:52] Okay so it's still very new...


Montana: [00:20:52] I've built up my knowledge over the years and training with particular people. But for me, I really want to have it set down pat in what I'm doing. And then that way. Build it from there and potentially go online and that sort of thing.


Kareena: [00:21:03] Do you think it's important then for fitness professionals, these days especially, to have a public profile on social media?


Montana: [00:21:10] Yeah. Yes and no. Like, I post a little bit about my clients as well. You know, the session that they might be doing that day or something. With everything becoming online and socials and stuff, it's probably not a bad thing to have. But then again, you probably yes, haven't heard of a lot of trainers because they're not online but they're phenomenal trainers. You know, sometimes keeping things in the dark, if you've already built up your clientele staying, you know, pretty private and pretty exclusive does help a lot of people as well.


Kareena: [00:21:38] So have you ever struggled with that balance? What To keep private and what to publicize?


Montana: [00:21:42] Yeah, definitely. Like, I'm a pretty private person in my personal life. But I think that business is business so yeah, I don't know. There is a little bit of a struggle. You try to share with your followers as much as you can. But being such a personal, like, you know, I like to keep things close. Yeah, I do find that struggle in like, "Oh, that's a bit confronting for me to share" but then pushing past that, you know, people really appreciate it and that sort of thing. They might be going through the same thing.


Kareena: [00:22:09] With everything that Montana is working on, we ask her just what she sees in her future and how she plans to achieve it.


Montana: [00:22:18] The next couple of years, I still see myself living in Australia, in Melbourne but hopefully, travelling around a little bit. Whether that's for modelling as a model or fitness or doing a bit of both. I'm back at school now as well. So, yeah, just finish that in the next 18 months so get that all done and then yeah, use that degree to better build my business. And then from there that's what I can take it online or, you know, globally. For me, Kirsty Godso who's a Nike Master's trainer is goals for me. So, basically, that's the type of thing I could see myself doing. Getting to travel around the world and do a little bit of that. I've adapted her "Hot Sauce Burpees" into the gym and everyone loves me for it.


Kareena: [00:22:58] They are not easy either!


Montana: [00:22:59] No, they're not but they're good fun.


Kareena: [00:23:06] With big goals ahead, we find out that Montana has a great support behind her in her management team. And she shares just how they're going to help her achieve her goals.


Montana: [00:23:15] But then, I also have a life manager in terms of life/business Manager. So, he helps me. He's got a vision for me and helps me get to that. So, in terms of how I want to be like a "Kirsty Godso." So, he's helping me in that direction. So, I've kind of got two managements. You know, modelling and then life. He's kind of like my life coach, in a sense, keeps me on track. I can then get that balance.


Montana: [00:23:39] So do they look at it from a different perspective, I guess, than you would and then bring potential opportunities to the table?


Montana: [00:23:45] You know, he might have connections and that sort of thing, so he will meet me, like, you know, I'm very... I'm such a closed book when you first meet me. I'm a shy person, I'm very introverted. Once you get to know me, you can't get me to shut up. Once I'm comfortable around someone a few times, takes me a couple times. I'm kind of like just blossom. I just, like, open up slowly and then, yeah, once he gets to know you, it's kind of like then, it's like, "I've got this vision for you. This is what I think that you could really do well with." I think a lot of people, particularly brands or business owners and stuff like that, when you say "Oh, and this is my Manager." The go "Oh! These people are serious, they're legit. They want to actually..." You know, rather than like "Hi, I'm Montana and I'm a model. This is my Instagram." You know you give them a business card. You know, so you've got substance behind you and that sort of thing. But I think that's kind of where we get lost in Instagram. We're just, you know, a screen really. As long as what you're giving to the world is really you. And it's not just like, "Okay, I'm going to pretend like I care about this or I'm like this" but really you're just a blank canvas. You know, just really making sure that you're presenting the real you. Don't be fake because once people then learn, like, you know, they might see you on Instagram and be like "Oh, she seems like a lovely girl" and then they meet you and they're like "She was really rude." And obviously, if you're rude or you know you're rude, you're not going to say it, but you don't want to promote that but yeah, just making sure you stay true to who you are, I think is the biggest thing.


Kareena: [00:25:07] True to her word in never wanting to limit herself, her desire to constantly grow and evolve has seen her try her hand at this new project...


Montana: [00:25:16] A very different side of me. I'm actually doing a beauty pageant.


Kareena: [00:25:19] At the time we interviewed Montana, she was a week out from the competition where she placed second. That is an incredible result and we couldn't be happier for her. It's a big shout out to Montana!


Kareena: [00:25:32] Oh wow!


Montana: [00:25:33] As everyone in the gym says, "I just can't imagine you doing that." Tell me about it! Yeah, so, it's called Miss Globe. I'm representing Australia there.


Kareena: [00:25:39] Oh fantastic!


Montana: [00:25:41] So, yeah, I'm there for 15 days and, you know, we do a talent show. We get to Montenegro. We get to meet a few mayors and stuff like that and travel all around. So, really looking forward to that nice little break.


Kareena: [00:25:51] What's your talent?


Montana: [00:25:53] Well seeing as I can't sing or dance or play any musical instrument. I'll leave that to my brother. I'm going to box.


Kareena: [00:25:59] Amazing. I didn't even know that was an option in any pageant.


Montana: [00:26:02] Well, I don't know if it is but it's going to be now. [laughs].


Kareena: [00:26:06] Hey, if Miss Congeniality can do the water glasses. Why not?!


Montana: [00:26:08] Exactly right.


Kareena: [00:26:10] Well that's very exciting, getting over there!


Montana: [00:26:12] Yep, it'll be good. I've never been. Obviously, it's not a place that you usually would think about going. But yeah, my best, one of my best friends is coming with me. So, she's going to do all my behind-the-scenes and she's actually done beauty pageants before so she can tell me what to do. Get my wave going. [laughs]


Kareena: [00:26:27] Have you had to do any types of training to get ready for a pageant?


Montana: [00:26:30] Probably but I haven't. I'm kind of like a "wing-it" type of person. Yeah, I don't really plan a lot. Yeah, I like to just go with the flow, pretty easy going. So, yeah, I can pick things up pretty quickly. You know, through basketball, you kind of had to learn on the spot, in particular, in games, you know, particular situations, "Right, we're doing this, we're doing this." So, yeah, just kind of go with it, see what happens and it's an experience nonetheless. You know, I might win, I might come last. It's not a particular goal that I've always been like, "I really want to do this." So, for me it's not a massive loss if I do lose or don't win. I'm just going for the experience.


Kareena: [00:27:04] As a final sign-off, we asked Montana if she had any final word that she'd like to leave for our listeners.


Montana: [00:27:11] Well, all the boys will get me for this one. I'm a big "Practice what you preach." I just joke around with it. I think the biggest thing is it's all about how you make a person feel not what you say. So, like, if you say something to someone, you could say something nice in a harsh way and you know, it's just like how you make them feel when they leave you. They might, you know, be like "I really don't want to see that person again." You've gotta make them feel like, you know, good about themselves or whatever the case is. So, definitely that and just treat everyone how, and you know, I know it’s really cliché to be like, you know, treat everyone how you want to be treated but I think it really is a massive thing. And for exercise, I would just, probably my biggest thing is, if you can move your body, move it. There are a lot of people in the world that can't. You know, a lot of people that through car accidents or anything else that paraplegic, quadriplegic, that can't actually do it. People are born with particular disorders so if you can move your body, do it, because seriously, there's so many people in the world that wish they could and can't.


Kareena: [00:28:13] That brings us to the end of our interview. Thank you, Montana, for joining us on the Loop App couch.


Montana: [00:28:16] Thank you for having me.


Kareena: [00:28:16] If you would like to continue following Montana's story. You can find all the links to her socials, in our show description. Once again, we would like to thank you for joining us on this episode of "In the Loop." If you enjoyed our interview and want to continue hearing more, just let us know by leaving your review or a rating because we always like to hear your feedback. We'll be back again next week to chat more about the business end of being an influencer. So, we'll catch you then!